The Five

00:00 Takeover. 00:05 Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld, along with Emily Campagno, Harold Moore Jr., Jesse Waters. And in college, she made extra cash as the bride on wedding cakes. Dana Brino, The Five. 00:20 President Trump is keeping his midterms mojo going with a fresh face to get his message out. New White House Press Secretary Katie Zachariah making her debut behind the podium today. 00:34 You're starting as White House press secretary three weeks before a midterm cycle. Is your job just to speak about White House matters or is it to make things less tough for Republicans in the midterms? 00:46 Well, Peter, I get to do what I was doing on the outside already, which was hoping to amplify, multiply and expand upon President Trump's incredible agenda for the American people. 01:00 Tonight, President Trump takes his show on the road to Alaska, a state, Dana. 01:05 It's hard to believe. 01:06 After a wild night in Ohio that had a little bit of everything, the president warning it could be all over for Republicans if Democrats win in November. He even found time to admire the caboose on Ohio Senate candidate John Houston. 01:19 I don't do this with men very often. I started examining his body because I didn't know he was a great athlete. 01:26 And I looked and I watched up and down. I looked at his and I looked at the whole and then I looked at his hands. Look at his hands. He's got these like claws. But if you had a bad presidential or one of these lunatics got in, you will look at me right now and you will say he's going to be the last Republican president in the history of our country. 01:53 Some chilling predictions, Dana. We had the first press briefing. She broke a little news there. We'll do a whole hour on that later. 02:03 What did you make of her first time? You used to have a disgusting practice that you would do at 02:08 the podium only once in a while yes yes and i don't she didn't have any of those hard questions today yeah but they'll come um i do think it was ambitious to try to go out and brief you know after only having that had the job for a couple of days but i think that's also probably why the press briefing was brief um she did make some news and one of the things you do want to go in like you want to be on offense Yeah. Right. So you go in there. She's asked a question that she knew she was probably going to get. And there was the zinger that Kimberly Guilfoyle was asked to resign. And that story had been hanging out there. 02:39 And I imagine that we'll learn a little bit more about that when President Trump makes a decision to let somebody go. He doesn't do it lightly. So there's probably they probably thought there were other shoes to drop. 02:49 Well, if there's one thing we know about Kimberly, she will always land on her. 02:54 Eight. 02:54 She will. She's a cat that way. 02:57 So that's a long trip home from Greece. Yes. But aside from that, Katie announced a couple of other things that the president is going to be going to other states, including Kentucky. And I think she said Georgia. And I don't think the stops are announced yet. But one of the things that has to happen right now is President Trump has to go out and try to help the Republican Party. salvage this situation. One of the reasons he's in Ohio is he's having to help the appointed governor, John Husted, because Sherrod Brown, who many Republicans worked very hard to get rid of him. 03:28 He'd been in office for 50 years. He's coming back for another bite at the apple. And that race is a toss up right now. Or even Sherrod Brown, I know, has been in the lead for a while. Republicans, I guess maybe they weren't paying close enough attention to what was happening in Ohio. So President Trump is having to go there. He's having to go to Alaska. That's a long way to go to have to do that. So I think it's one of those things where you're the press secretary leading into a midterm and leading into the last two years. I do think that if the Democrats do end up taking the House, her law degree will come in very handy. 04:00 Emily, unlike New York, you have friends in Alaska. 04:03 I do. 04:05 I was so great. Okay. So I pulled everyone. I did boots on ground without actually going there. I'm jealous of the president that he gets to visit all these places. I mean, wouldn't it be awesome by the way, like bourbon trail in Alaska anyway. So here's what, here's what everyone said. I thought it was really interesting. Um, every one of these people, by the way, works in the criminal justice system, but people are concerned about the high cost of living and of gas prices. But the thing about Alaska is that the entire economy and the entire funding for the So it's sort of a catch 22 in that way, where the higher the price of oil, the more funding actually that the state gets. 04:38 So it's a sort of a catch 22. And the Senate race appears to be a toss up there. Mary Paltola, by the way, is really popular and she has the native vote there and that matters. But Dan Sullivan has done a lot for the state, right? He's brought in federal energy projects, military assets. But some people are questioning whether those will actually happen, how And the ANWR drilling project is exceedingly unpopular. And this is important. So they think that the Democrat is going to win the governorship. He's a moderate. He's well liked by both sides. 05:09 The three Republican candidates are expletive deleted, according to them. 05:14 And the last governor who was a Republican. 05:16 cut the education funding so bad that people are pissed enough to vote in a Democrat. And that's why I think the pendulum matters so much. I mean, obviously, but there, which you could count on being a red state in all senses of the word for so long, the pendulum might be swinging to blue. Obviously, it will turn around with the president visiting there. And then the final point that they said is that the House seat will obviously and definitely go Republican. But note this, that people there are more independent than anything else. And the Democrat candidates there are moderate. They are pro-gun, right? They are pro-drilling and the like. 05:48 So I think what matters to them has a national impact, though. If those same Democrats vote with the DSA candidates that might be populating the House writ large, then we'll have some problems. 06:00 Jesse, a deep dive into Alaska. 06:01 Yeah, I mean, we're talking about guys' asses here, Emily. I don't know why you're talking about Alaska. Listen, Trump says a lot of stuff that we all think, but we don't say. And sometimes it sounds a little gay. But he can get away with it because he's straight. Like, we talk about guy stuff sometimes. Like, Greg has no ass. 06:20 Flat. Just falls off his back. Can he say this? I don't know if that's true. The president said it. This is the topic. 06:27 And, like, Johnny. It's Greg. 06:32 Can I talk about my assistant's body? 06:35 I don't think so. 06:35 So Johnny's built like the Tin Man. You ever see him walk around? It's like his hip sockets are too lubricated. He's just like this. You think his leg's going to fall off? 06:45 I saw John Foon one time in a locker room. The guy looks like an Olympic swimmer. This is what guys say. He was saying this guy, is his name John Husted? He's saying John Husted is a phenomenal athlete. He was an All-American cornerback, national champion, Division III football player. And he's got what it takes. Now, I always say, vote for the better athlete. Who's he running against again? Sherrod Brown. Sherrod Brown cannot play anything. He didn't play sports in college. 07:16 He can barely catch a football. You got to go with the guy with the better ass. That's what I say. 07:22 The press secretary. I mean, she has big shoes to fill. 07:27 Caroline Levitt was amazing. And remember, Caroline started in the campaign. So she had all that runway leading up to the job. A lot of access, a lot of proximity to all the players. 07:37 Katie gets the job Friday, flies back to California Saturday, packs a suitcase, flies back Sunday, first day Monday, briefs Tuesday. So as she does this, she'll develop authority and she'll be great. I know how devoted she is and she's very smart. You know, the Democrats are going to criticize whoever it is. Yeah. 07:56 They had binder. Yeah, exactly. 07:58 Remember Corrine Jean-Pierre? We did whole segments about how catastrophic she was. She couldn't talk. She couldn't pronounce words. Where is she, by the way? Where is Corrine Jean-Pierre? So forget about all that noise. Forget about it. 08:11 Harold, would you like to comment on any male body parts or would you like to discuss Trump's appearances? 08:18 First, my prayers to the Pope and to all Catholics. What happened? 08:23 I missed something. 08:24 The Pope had lung cancer. 08:26 Oh, wow. 08:26 He had a nodule removed today and apparently was successful surgery. So prayers to him. You know, when we're talking about a candidate's buttocks, Things are going bad for the team that's having to do that. President Trump promised a year and a half ago, before the 2024 election, that we would end these wars and with lower prices. Here we are now. 08:49 And I know it's painful to hear. It's boring, Harold. 08:52 We're talking about raiding men. 08:54 What's happening? We're talking about the new press secretary. 08:57 You want to talk about boring wars? I don't rate guys' butts. 09:00 But I will say this. All right, yours. James Carter, one of the greats of all time, when he was at his height, once said it's re-election time for Bill Clinton, he goes... We have so much peace and prosperity. Those who are opposing him, which are you tired of, the peace or the prosperity? When you don't have the peace and prosperity to brag about, you have to talk about these things. Now, I think as we sit here today, Democrats find themselves in an advantageous position in these House races. I don't think Democrats are as strong as they think they are in some of these Senate races because some of these races are tightening up, including in New Hampshire, in Maine, and even in Michigan, where Democrats thought they were sailing. 09:34 But Democrats are, to your point, Emily, it looks like they're doing better in Alaska. And it looks as if they are still in contention in Texas. I think the next few weeks, I think voters are going to be less interested in hearing about Senator Husted's butt. and more hearing about what Democrats or Republicans are going to do to reduce prices. I give the president a lot of credit for trying his hardest here at the end to find an end to some of these conflicts. But working a deal with Russia to repeal the Lindsey Graham rule, to repeal the Lindsey Graham sanctions, all in an effort to try to get 12 hours of diesel gasoline for the world. 10:09 It's just not a good deal. 10:11 So whoever has the best ideas, they're going to win. I try to tell Democrats, this is not going to be one of these things where the map, I think you're going to see split races, one Democrat winning, a Republican winning in the state, because people are going to vote for the person they believe will stand up for them, stand up to the political class, be it President Trump or Democrats, to do what's best for them. I know it's a little boring, but fortunately, I'm able to look forward $5 a gallon gasoline, but a lot of people aren't. I think that's what they're focused on. Thank you, Harold. 10:37 He threw you under the bus three times. 10:39 I didn't even feel it. You said you liked his butt more than my butt, right? 10:43 You have a nice one, Harold, but, I mean... I feel so objectified. 10:48 You should. Yeah. What goes around comes around. That is true. I've learned my lesson. From now on, no more fat jokes. Yeah, right. 10:56 Yeah. There goes all your show. Yes. 10:58 Coming up, Hassan Piker shows off his commie costume. 11:03 You want to show muscles? 11:05 I mean, I can't really squat a little. So I can't really do. 11:09 Oh, OK. Wow. Wow. 11:43 Are Democrats getting high on their own supply? With just 21 days until the midterms, Politico says the Dems are trying on a new attitude, bravado. They're talking like they've already got it in the bag. And no one's more cocksure than Abdul, the doctor who's already predicting his margin of victory. 12:01 Do you think you're winning the race? 12:04 I've been clearing that I think I'm going to win by seven. Still. Do you see what I'm running against? I mean, he's not a serious person. 12:15 And they're not a serious campaign. 12:17 And he's lazy. 12:19 And he's entitled. 12:21 And speaking of bravado, Abdul's pool party pal, Hassan Piker, acting like his chairman Mao cosplay can't sink his buddy's Senate bid. The California streamer doubling down on the controversial comments that have made him a campaign pariah. 12:36 You kind of look like a communist. 12:38 Thank you. 12:40 I got this in China. 12:41 Did you always want to be a champagne socialist? 12:43 Um, yes. 12:46 You once said, let the streets soak in red capitalist blood. How was the Oscar parties this year? 12:57 It was weird. 12:58 Jeff Bezos was there. 12:59 You said that a Vietnamese communist refugee should suck a... You said that... 13:04 If you're MAGA, if you're right-wing, if you're a Nazi, you know, I'm going to be vulgar with you. Got it. It just, it doesn't matter. 13:13 So Dana, Abdul said... 13:16 don't talk anymore. You're killing my campaign. And Piker said, it's my job to talk. 13:22 Yeah. And Abdul was like, by the time November 3rd rolls around, he'll be like, I've never even heard of a California Twitch streamer who I'm sure is in his phone under Hassan Piker. 13:34 So we are two months beyond the Michigan primary and Abdul is still trying to win it because he barely won it against Haley Stevens and he hasn't locked his base down. So he has to continue to do these things. And the bravado, I think, is not attractive. I don't think it's persuasive. And the Rogers campaign just put out an ad of black voters in Michigan saying, who are going to vote for Rogers, not Syed. And if this race, I don't think it's going to be by seven in either direction. 14:05 It's a close race and a toss-up race for a reason. That means that every vote's going to count. And if Syed can't lock down enough black voters, he will come up short. 14:17 So, Abdul and Piker, Greg, which one dresses better? 14:20 Well, you know what? I think the key here is Piker illustrates that thing that we've talked about, that he's able to advocate sexual denigration of a refugee because he designates you as evil. 14:34 then that justifies anything that you can do. So he says MAGA is a Nazi, and somehow that makes her a Nazi, even though she's a refugee, an Asian. And then that means he can say, go sucka, you know what. So who's actually being evil? Who's being the Nazi here? But he's never... He's never advocated for women's rights. If he would, he would support Israel and not Muslim countries because one has more rights than the other. In terms of Abdul, I thought the big story, and you probably covered it yesterday, but my two cents. 15:05 You know, he denied his connection to the Muslim Brotherhood. And then it makes then you look at his sister's tweets and you realize the connection is very strong with his family, his mother, the Muslim Brotherhood's there. The Muslim Brotherhood's official website celebrates Abdul's primary win. 15:21 It's possible that they're doing here what they do in Europe, which is exploiting our weaknesses to gain control, using democracy to fight. ultimately end democracy. And the progressives welcome the deal, even though they'll be the first to die when the caliphate emerges. So that The Muslim Brotherhood, in case you forgot, is a Islamist movement that denies Western principles and values. And that includes the separation of church and state, equal rights and free speech. These are the these are the things that also spawned Hamas. 15:54 So I understand why Abdul denies it, because that's part of the plan. You don't want to, like, let it out until you're in control. But it makes me wonder what what is it about Democrats that. liberal Democrats, to willingly give up those three things. Equal individual rights, which they always claim they're for. Free speech, which they always claim they're for. Separation of church. We've heard that for 30, 40 years. They're willing to give that all up to win a Senate seat, even though once that guy wins, he's going to be your worst enemy. 16:27 Why do you think that is? 16:29 Are you talking about with the Michigan race with Greg? 16:31 Yeah, why would they sacrifice that for one seat? 16:34 I think we've gotten to a point. I've said all along I would not have voted for him in the primary. 16:40 And I've said on this show, I'm critical of Democrats and Republicans. Would you vote for him now against Mike Rogers? I said on the show last week, if you can't denounce Hamas, 16:49 Yeah. 16:49 If you can't denounce the Muslim Brotherhood and I would have when he couldn't answer that question about who's a greater threat to our country, Iran or Israel. I said here, I have great questions about his fitness to be in the United States Senate. 17:00 So you're not voting for him. I can't even if I wanted to. Yeah. 17:03 I find. these kinds of things so disturbing because it makes a mockery of our entire political system. Listening to this young man, Piker, who's an entertainer. He's not a serious political thinker. He's not thinking about how to lower health care costs. He's not serious about ensuring America today needs 1.7 million skilled trades jobs annually. And we only produce 600 to 700,000 a year. I don't hear any of these guys talking about him or for that matter, listening to Mr. El Sayad say that he thinks he's ahead by seven points. What are you talking about? 17:34 Why aren't you out? If Mike Rodgers is running ads showing that a group of voters who might ordinarily or might be thought of to vote Democrats saying they're going to vote against you, why wouldn't you be out talking to those voters instead of bragging whether you're going to win by 10 points or two points? This is not how campaigns, not only successful campaigns, but how successful legislators work. It happens on the Republican side, too. But right now, you ask me a pointed question. I'm unclear if I could vote for him if I lived in the state of Michigan. Emily, bring us home. Less than three weeks out. 18:04 I want to focus on what Piker said, because while he's not running for office, his vile comments and his horrific perspective have flooded your children's social media. He is what is shaping the algorithm. He is what is shaping voters' views. And they think it's mainstream. We see what he is, which is frankly evil. But people who say See his views online. Kids who see his views online think it's normal. So they we obviously can't play what he said, but he cussed out an elderly Vietnamese immigrant who fled communism because she was MAGA. 18:40 He said the most rated X things about her. And then when he was called out on it, he said. Who cares? She's a Nazi because she voted for President Trump. So you're absolutely right, Greg, that he sort of creates this permission structure. If you disagree with that kind of radical liberal, then you have permission to attack the identity. And then he tells us that his policies are best for black and brown and Asian communities and that the policies of conservatives are somehow bad for them writ large. 19:11 And you contrast that. 19:13 First of all, him dismissing outright anything that that, for example, Vietnamese elderly woman had to say in terms of her independent thought and her opinion. But you contrast that with the NYPD detective, Jose Mercedes, who had his his press conference today. He was stabbed last week. 10 times, 10, not seven. And he managed to chase his attackers a block. Those attackers are Dominican, just like he is. They're illegal immigrants. And he was standing up there and he said, my main concern is for my community. 19:44 He said, that's why I became a police officer, because my main concern was crime. 19:50 So here we have Hassan Piker, who is telling us and telling that detective that he knows better than him as to what a person of color needs and what policies would benefit him. When one is telling us right now what it means, which is enforce the laws and hit back crime. And yes, have jails and yes, lionize our police department, because these are the good guys. And Aside from that, and in contrast to that, you have this person that is infiltrating all kinds of thought. And clearly he is making a difference because all of the questions for the candidates revolve around the filth that Hassan Piker says and revolve around the alliances and the pictures that there are with him. 20:29 But you cannot claim to represent or be for communities of color while refusing to listen to them when they tell you that they want protection. And he cannot claim to oppose prejudice when everything out of his mouth, if you disagree with him, is the most vile form of prejudice there is. And their safety, by the way, he has seized to sacrifice. 20:51 And that somehow is OK. 20:53 So if I'm hearing you, you don't like Hassan Piper. Just a little. Just a little. OK. Coming up, the feds are hot on Ilhan Omar's tail as President Trump unloads on the Somali bandits. 21:07 The Republican Party, we believe that Somalia bandits, third world gangs and jihadist sympathizers do not belong in Ohio. They don't belong in America. Got to get them the hell out of here. 21:20 This is for all the lonely people. The only sick of the night has passed them by. 21:29 Precise, personal, powerful. Is America's weather team in the palm of your hands? Get Fox weather updates throughout your busy day, every day. Subscribe and listen now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. 21:53 Democrats and their belief that no one is above the laws getting tested again after federal agents raided the home of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. The investigation is reportedly related to potential immigration crimes. Omar putting out a defiant statement, writing this. I'm OK. Make no mistake. This is an attempt to target political enemies and weaponize federal law enforcement. President Trump says he had nothing to do with the investigation, but he had plenty to say about the Congresswoman at last night's rally in Ohio. 22:23 She's a disaster. She comes into our country and she says, I have a constitutional right. She's got a constitutional right. She's telling us about the Constitution. And she comes from one of the worst countries anywhere on the planet. 22:39 Last week, savage Somali gang members shot two people in the high school parking lot in the middle of a football game. Just days later, a few miles away, the FBI arrested a radicalized Somalian who was planning to carry out an ISIS-style terrorist attack at the Mall of America. 23:01 But the media is not taking Trump at his word, accusing the administration of racism and claiming Omar is a victim of political prosecution. 23:10 It's racism aimed at Congresswoman Omar and at an entire community. 23:13 It looks highly suspicious. 23:15 Three weeks before Election Day, it looks like a political ploy. 23:19 As everyone knows, there's been a longstanding controversy, mostly in right-wing circles, about Ilhan Omar's immigration provenance and whether she's in the country legally. It does look like she's being targeted for political persecution, like a lot of our other congressional colleagues have been. 23:36 None of them address the substance of the matter. And it is, I think, worth pointing out that the investigation began under Joe Biden. 23:45 Correct. And first of all, there's a lot we don't know, but there is a lot going on here in different avenues. So the investigation that was begun under Biden's Department of Justice had to do with financial issues and ethics issues. As we know, this obviously is part of the Department of Homeland Security, but it's attached to the criminal DOJ department. And I think that the thing to really grasp, if you're watching here, is to, first of all, disregard all of those commentators' points, because this required judicial authorization of federal investigation. 24:18 And when you have a warrant, There are requirements for the warrant. So before a judge signs off on it, you have to describe with particularity and specificity the thing to be seized and the thing to be searched. And you have to, by probable cause, prove with facts, not just political allegations or the color of her skin, which these MSNOW commentators are trying to say, that there is a nexus between that thing you're searching or seizing and a crime. And from New York Times reporting, we know that that has to do with potentially conspiracy. 24:49 It has to do with potentially immigration crimes. So there's a lot going on there. And everything that they brought out of their house, which we have on camera, there were boxes of evidence. So it's like we were talking about earlier, what is that likely electronics? If you talk about the ephemerality of the evidence, are there things that they got rid of? You know, we don't know. That's a whole separate crime. But I will say this. If there is a warrant that has been executed by a federal judge in the D.C. Circuit on a sitting congressperson's house that led to the seizure of boxes of evidence, then there is a lot to be uncovered. 25:22 And the questions we have now are the tip of the iceberg. And yes, the fact that it's happening right before midtimes, it goes to show that whatever they have and whatever the judge signed off on is far more important than the appearance of propriety or the appearance of affecting negatively the midterm results. 25:41 Harold, you can comment on the substance of it as well, but on the timing, Jack Smith, when he went after Trump, he made it very clear he was trying to do that before the 2024 election. Has Democrats sort of forfeited that grace period? 25:55 So when I think you might be referring to when there was the executed warrant on Mar-a-Lago and people talked that became very partisan and political. 26:07 The same facts that I think Emily rightly and eloquently said for this to happen three weeks before the election, you have to sign up on this in the Justice Department, several layers, including their public. integrity department and you have to have a judge. You presume that the judges in D.C. that sign up on this. I know everybody likes to be political, not us necessarily, but people like to wonder if the judges are. These are probably all Democrat appointed judges that looked at this. And I think judges are above their partisan to people who may have appointed them. But just to get in the weeds with everybody for a moment. So I would agree. 26:38 With Emily, just like I would agree that the warrant that was executed on Mar-a-Lago was done the same way. I give people like you should like we do in our American system. She's not been charged with anything, but it sounds like these agents and this this warrant before judges sign up for sitting member of Congress who's up for reelection three weeks before an election. They must believe, as you talked about, the specificity that had to be outlined in their request. That there's something here. 27:05 She if she does get charged as a presumption of innocence in our country, which would apply to her. I don't like the president saying that somehow another person that comes from a country that he doesn't like and might be a poor country. She's been here two decades. She has every right as an American to say whatever she wants to say. But what she does not have the right to do is break the law. And if laws are broken here, we're going to find out. 27:27 And in true American fashion, Jessie, she has already fundraising off of this. She has fundraising out there. 27:34 She better. She's going to pay a fortune in legal fees. So the father was a colonel in the Somali military under a military dictatorship that ran roughshod over these opposing clans, war crimes, atrocities. It was just really based. 27:49 And so then there was a coup and everyone fled. And then the dad said, you know, I was the one being persecuted. No, you were the one persecuting other people. So that was the first fraud. 28:02 He killed 200,000. I mean, he it was an actual genocide. 200,000 people. Oh, 28:06 Horrific. And so the other allegation of fraud is that she lied about her age. Said she was 17. Actually, she was not a minor. So that makes her ineligible for naturalization. So that's one thing. Now, the other thing is the brother. Now, the brother allegedly married her in order to gain citizenship here in this country. She passed her. Yes. And so those are just the immigration crimes. They're also looking at the financials and the financials are sketchy. All of a sudden, she reports a 30 million dollar net worth. Three days later, it goes down to 100 grand. 28:39 How the hell that happened? She's never explained it. And this all happens around the same time as the Somali fraud. And she was the co-sponsor of the bill that took away the guardrails that allowed the money to flow into these shady companies. A lot of these people donated to her campaign. She's photographed with some of these people who are indicted now. And Minneapolis Airport, more cash flew out of that airport than any airport ever. Anywhere in the United States, a million dollars a day in cash. Why? Some of that money might have gone to terrorism, said Scott Besson. 29:13 So this bar is really high to go after her a couple of weeks before an election. Have a D.C. judge, Democrat appointee sign off on that. They got the goods. 29:24 There's a presumption of innocence in our country. She's presumed innocent. She deserves that. 29:28 And she's never responded. 29:32 She's rarely responded, if ever, to any of these accusations. And these people that we are now hearing about it for the first time, we are not obligated to explain anything to them. We've been talking about this forever. We have seen this corrupt Somalian behavior. This is not a bug in the system. It is a system. It is a system like capitalism. Somalia is a clan based society with weak institutions, very little rule of law and lots and lots of piracy. So it is a low trust society where to survive, you violate the laws to extract resources from anywhere you can get. 30:09 Could be your neighbor, could be a store, doesn't really matter. So large scale fraud that you're seeing in Minnesota is not an aberration. It is a predictable export. Which is why assimilation is so important, because high trust cultures like ours are exploited by low trust cultures who come here. We don't know how to deal with it. Why was she so successful? Listen to the white people in that montage who claimed attacking her. was racist. 30:41 She took a corrupted engine into an environment that rewards grievance framing and identity protection. So that shields all corrupt behavior. And by the way, we know this. We see this. It doesn't matter what criminal it is. It's always, oh, you're saying it because you're racist, illegal immigration and so on. So now she's fundraising off the raid, which again, she turns the legal process into resource extraction opportunities. So You have large scale migration from a low trust environment that elevates crime and fraud in the area it arrives. 31:18 And pointing that out is not racist. It is reality. 31:22 And that and the bigger issue of fraud is a main topic in the Minnesota Senate race where Michelle Tafoya spent a good fight against Penny Flanagan, who was with under Tim Walls and Keith Ellison. 31:32 But Greg, you're not saying the entire Somali population of people are terrible. Only a simplistic mind would think I said that. I just want to make you simplistic. Sometimes I want to make sure some of our audience doesn't think that our audience is very bright. 31:44 They understand that what happens right now is we have a lot of Somalians here that are exploiting our system. 31:50 That's the truth. If you think that's racist, that's your problem. 31:54 I didn't say that. I was only saying, I hope you weren't generalizing. 31:57 No, I get it. You have a better butt than me, okay? Float over it. 32:02 Yes, indeed. All right, up next, Mark Zuckerberg sure loves his AI muse, but maybe not a Guinness? 32:19 It's Will Tane Country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday at foxnews.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. 32:42 AI killer robots might be killing us with cuteness. Tech companies are putting a cuddly face on superintelligence from OpenAI's Dots to Jolly, Meta's plushy mascot for Muse. Speaking of which, Mark Zuckerberg is explaining how he uses the Muse AI app all the time, but it's his awkward attempt to drink a Guinness that is getting all the attention. 33:06 What are your guys' personal favorite Muse use cases, either yours or other people's? 33:12 I was actually talking about this at dinner yesterday. Having it coach me in MMA. So I put cameras in my gym and I basically, it watches the cameras when I'm in there and it gives me feedback in between the rounds. 33:28 He has never had a Guinness before that day. 33:30 I don't know. You know, the mistake is anthropomorphizing him, but also A.I. So you're doing all the soft and fluffy things. 33:38 A.I. is software and you have people who want to tell the software that it's a thinking, feeling entity. These are the very same people. It's not it's the others who launched the hysteria that A.I. was going to destroy the world, destroy humanity. 33:56 Meanwhile, they also want to tell AI or make AI believe that it's conscious and therefore can make its own decisions, which means it won't have to listen to us. So the people that are warning about the apocalypse are actually creating it. You only need one line of software with AI. Don't break the laws. You don't need anything else. You don't need to say anything else. That would stop it. The notion that we must tell AI that it is sentient. That means if you're sentient, that you will feel pain and fatigue and you will have an opinion. 34:29 So AI will still not exist, but it won't know that. And then you'll have to end up paying AI for its work. You'll need to give it a work week because it will register fatigue when you work it too hard. And if you don't feed it or reward it in some way, it will be considered slavery if it is a sentient being. It's a Tamaguchi from hell. This is why we have to get away from giving it human or animal qualities because it doesn't exist. 35:02 Dana, the argument, yes, is that these are they're like creating puffer fish or hippos where they're cute to us, but they're very deadly. 35:08 Yeah, I think Greg's making some great points on Muse. I am curious about it because it's getting some really good press and reviews. Like one of the things I said they could do is Muse can call. 35:19 like the dentist for you and be on hold for you and then send you another like, okay, they're ready to talk to you now so that you don't have to do the whole phone tree thing. I was like, oh, I kind of want that. But here's a question. Like if you've already gone down the path with one AI, how can you go to another AI? It's not because I feel disloyal. I don't care. I don't think that that entity has feelings, but I'm like, I did all that work and now I have to do more work. 35:43 You just made me think that if an AI, let's say it's anthropics, is going to be sentient, do not use it. 35:50 I'm not going to use it. 35:51 Use ones like Rock that will not do that, and then they will go out of business. This is why competition is so important. 35:58 Muse, Jesse, looks like. 36:00 um, the, the Christmas. 36:03 No, yes. 36:04 A movie reference that I haven't seen. 36:05 You have, um, it's, it's the Christmas one. And he abominable, he looks like abominable in the one where it's like claymation. It's the best one with the abominable snowman with Herbie, the elf, Herbie, the elf. 36:16 He wants to be a dentist. Yeah. Rudolph. 36:19 Yeah. I don't know. Thank you. I don't know if you read Axios. Anyway, But Axios had this piece. It was by Big Oil and Big Oil was giving advice to A.I. How bad does A.I. have to be where Big Oil is giving PR advice to bring in tobacco? Right. They're basically saying, guys, stop telling everybody your product's going to kill them. Maybe just start bribing the communities instead of being all stingy about it. And just like do the right thing. 36:49 And like the fact that they can't get this together is ridiculous. Now, I don't know if you guys knew this, but I was at the state dinner with the Chinese, not the one with English with Greg, but the other state dinner. And I saw Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg was cool. 37:04 He was drinking. He was hanging out with Hegseth. He was talking about fighting. He was, like, telling Vance anything you want, like, let me know what you want. So this guy has drank Guinness before. 37:15 It's just some of these guys have very strange demeanors. I think it was Sam Altman was at the dinner. Now, he was acting like a hermit crab. Have you ever seen a hermit crab? They run around. They scamper around. They come back in their shows, and they scamper around. They come back. 37:31 So some of these things you think he's never had a beer before. No, he's just different. 37:35 I feel like you made the expression you make when you are eating someone else's meal. So you want to be polite and you're like, oh, my gosh, that's disgusting. But I love it. 37:42 Tough night for him. I'm hoping he got what he wanted after that if he didn't like that. Look, I think that AI, I've said my piece in this. I think we can do two things. We can advance and be smart, but we can also be safe. 37:55 And I'm reassured that Jay Clayton is our AI chief, AI chairman, that we're going to go down that path. You know him? Met him once or twice. Okay, good. 38:04 All right, guys, coming up, are you an offensive texter? 38:17 Fox News Radio On Demand on the Fox News app. Download the app and just click listen. When you swipe left, you can listen to your favorite Fox News talk shows live. Swipe right for the latest Fox News Radio newscasts on demand. Fox News Radio on the Fox News app. Download it today. 38:37 Are you a bad texter? Turns out texting sorry just saying this is actually rude, according to etiquette experts. Instead, try responding with a simple sorry for the delay. 38:49 are you sorry for the delay or sorry just seeing it? I'm sorry just seeing this because I'm just telling the truth. 38:55 Yeah, and I give the reason why if I need to. I thought they went on to say 15 things you shouldn't do, and I love two of them. One, start with a point. I hate it when people babble, and then at the end you're like, oh, there was a question. And then also don't text anything you wouldn't say in person. 39:11 What are you, just seen this or? No, you never, ever apologize. You never say you're sorry, especially on text. What you say is, if you're late or something, thank you for your patience. 39:22 DP, you put you in the power position. How do you feel about Jesse's power position? 39:26 I'm going to use it. I'm going to deploy that. Sometimes people send me text messages. Somebody sent me a text message last night. I haven't talked to this person in years and they want me to promote something for them. No, but I just now I'm doing it live. You know who you are watching. 39:44 I remember doing this once. I texted back. Sorry, just seeing this. And it was true. I mean, the text said, help, I'm drowning. The ship is going down. Send help. But I was busy. 39:58 Anyway, all right, Pete. 40:02 One more thing is up next. 40:09 I shut them down. 40:13 I shut them down. Shut them down. Shut them down. 40:31 All right, OMT, I'll go first. Tonight, we got Tim, Terry Shappard, Adam Hunter, Dana Perito. That's tonight. Let's do Harold's favorite, Greg's White News. All the news that's white. Harold, check out this rare albino Asian black bear. Funny that it's called black, but it's white. 40:50 At the Shinago Forestry District in central China. Wow, look at him. Typical whitey. Thinks he owns the place. All right, Emily. That black white bear. 41:00 Hey, guys, check out Brian Kilmeade's new book. It's amazing. It just came out today, Uniting the States, and it explores six key figures on how America became America. 41:09 Wow, Jesse. We're going to have Kilmeade on tonight talking about that. Also, when tigers attack. Oh, geez. That's it for us. 41:18 I'm Dana Perino, and this is Perino on Politics. Join me and my very smart friends every week as we discuss the ever-changing state of American politics. We cover it all. New episodes available Mondays everywhere you get podcasts. 41:33 Listen to The Five ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.